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Title: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on June 09, 2009, 11:28:52 pm
Anything related to the 10-12 July 2009 Powerlifting meet is welcome here. Concerns specific to the Gathering (http://virtualmeet.net/gathering/) held on the same weekend is best posted in the Gathering discussion thread (http://virtualmeet.net/community/forum/powerlifting-talk/118/0/).

To sign-up for this special meet, click here. (http://virtualmeet.net/community/forum/meet-talk/312/0/)


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: Lindy on July 07, 2009, 05:40:54 pm
This will be my first meet and I've got a question on the bench press rules. 

My legs are really short and we've got a high bench so normally I put my feet on 6in high plastic crates.  The surface of the crates is criss-crossed plastic with holes (like a normal plastic crate for vegetables or something) and the crates are caving in a little from extensive use... so it's a flat surface but not an even surface (does that make sense?) 

I don't think the surface gives me any advantages, but I like my crates and am hoping  they are legal for me to use!  Please let me know :)

Thanks!


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on July 08, 2009, 05:26:23 am
Hi Lindy,

Sorry for the slow reply. According to the rules:

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To achieve firm footing, flat surfaced blocks or weight plates not exceeding 30 centimeters/11.8 inches may be used.

So the height of your crates is well within the permitted range. In a sanctioned meet, you would find either sturdy wooden/plywood boxes or weight plates being used, but if the crates do not flex much under your weight they should do fine too. But if in doubt, pile up some plates instead.

Thanks for checking up on this before the meet and let me know if you have any more questions. :)


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on July 08, 2009, 07:24:00 am
All lifters should now have received an e-mail with the upload details etc. If you haven't please let me now ASAP.

Note that those lifting at the Gathering have not received a mail since we will bulk upload the clips after the meet on Saturday.


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: burgerc on July 13, 2009, 11:59:54 am
Kris, thanks for organizing the gathering! I had a great time and am glad to have been able to meet you, Mans, and Alberto, and your family.

The meet had a great positive atmosphere to it. I could learn a lot from the other lifters and about Finland, too. Next time I plan to stay longer to see more of Finland.

Lifting outdoors is really cool and it made me think whether there are ways for me to do this in Vienna too.

Looking forward to see the judging and the meet videos.


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on July 15, 2009, 12:10:47 am
Greetings from the Arctic Circle! Alberto and I are roughing it by surfing the net in our tiny tent.

We had an extremely nice gathering and outdoor meet on Saturday. More pictures and stories to follow, but here's one to get started.

Christian and Alberto, it was really an honor to see you two arrange to fly in for the gathering, I enjoyed every second of it. :)

Finally: got all gathering clips uploaded yesterday over a mobile connection. All lifters have now uploaded, but it seems like one lifter may have forgotten to upload the deadlifts. I have given some time to sort this out, but I should be able to get the meet to the judges from this very tent under the midnight sky once the situation is resolved.

At the moment we have two judges: Ryan Rigdon and Mike Amos. A third judge should soon be confirmed.

Update to follow.

 


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on July 16, 2009, 03:58:44 pm
By an unholy union of camping and modern technology and the grace of the midnight sun that never sets, the meet is now with the judges. We are still one judge short which may slow down the judging a bit. But we'll get there. As usual, the judges now have one week to complete the judging.

Virtualmeet the gathering road trip is now heading into Norway after some mountain climbing GPP action.


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on July 21, 2009, 11:34:11 pm
Powered by vast quantities of noodles and energy drinks, the post-meet road trip made its way some 1300 kilometers / 808 miles north of Toffe's Gym to North Cape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Cape,_Norway), the tip of Europe, and back.

The meet also got its last judge slot filled by Ron Villani (http://virtualmeet.net/ironman50), well-known lifter and the judge of several virtualmeets. At the moment, the judging is 67% done. So far so good. :)


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: adrnline on July 22, 2009, 01:25:55 pm
Nice pictures, nice stories! Maybe there will be a second gathering next year?!


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: burgerc on July 22, 2009, 06:56:09 pm
Nice pictures, nice stories! Maybe there will be a second gathering next year?!
That would be great. I was in Finland only for a too short a time and it was still a great experience. I also had a moment of culture shock there too: In Finland they sell Kettlebells and lifting chalk in Supermarkets. :o Sadly, I cannot see this ever happen in Austria.


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on July 22, 2009, 11:02:42 pm
Let's put it this way: the gathering was a blast and doing another one next year would be awesome. However, I will need to do some preliminary planning to see how a gathering would fit in next year, especially if we have another go at my island gym. The final word will be out when the 2010 meet schedule proposal is presented in the fall. So stay tuned.

One thing is fairly certain though: as much as the road trip was an incredible experience (many thanks to Alberto!), I unfortunately cannot make a habit of taking a week off the family vacation every year to drive into the wilderness. Those few weeks are simply very precious having two young kids. But if a gathering is arranged next year too at my end, I will naturally make sure it is again an event to be remembered in one way or another. Of course, there is nothing stopping participants from pooling together to arrange a follow-up Arctic Circle adventure or whatever should there be interest.

Enough said for now. Meanwhile, any thoughts and hand waiving from people who would be seriously interested in doing a gathering next year are warmly welcome. :)


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on July 26, 2009, 09:42:05 am
Update: the judging has been somewhat delayed due to one of the judges having been tied down by this thing known as life. While we strive to get the judging done within one week after the meet has reached the judging phase, we must also remember that these guys are doing the judging in their spare time for free. So please bare with us a bit longer, I have been told that the outstanding rounds will shortly be judged.


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: RIGDON on July 26, 2009, 03:05:14 pm
judging complete on my part. ;D


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on July 26, 2009, 09:14:48 pm
Excellent, thanks Ryan, Ron and Mike! :)

I will try to release the meet tomorrow Monday.


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on July 28, 2009, 12:49:36 am
Done, the meet has been released! (http://virtualmeet.net/meets/200907pl/)

This turned out to be a historic meet in more respects than anticipated. As you all know by now, it was of course the first ever Gathering... and an amazing one at that. Being able to meet and lift with Alberto (http://virtualmeet.net/tearsnrain/) from Puerto Rico, Christian (http://virtualmeet.net/burgerc/) from Austria and buddy Måns (http://virtualmeet.net/mansrinne/) from Finland felt incredible. It was an intense meet and with spectators from neighboring cottages plus my family as a backdrop to some heavy tunes, it got the adrenaline flowing. It made a world of difference at least for me who, after being largely out of the gym for the last one and a half years or so due to various reasons, managed to post much better lifts than in my pre-meet test sessions. I may have posted my worst total by far in a virtualmeet, but this was in so many respects the best meet ever for me.

We also saw some drama. Alberto forgot to get out of his long pants for his squats and amazingly, blame it on the adrenaline or whatever, none of us noticed it until after he had stumbled out of the rack after a successful but very hard second attempt... that he did after failing the lift on his first attempt. Being faced with the risk of bombing out, he had to redo it once more or be out of the game. And he did, big time! Christian suffered a worse fate with his third attempt bench being seriously misloaded which made for a nasty surprise. Unlike a real meet, retaking misloaded attempts is specifically prohibited in our rule set so that was that. All of the guys managed to post at least one virtualmeet PR.

But those lifting elsewhere than in the Finnish woods made a big splash, especially Claudia Gerhards (http://virtualmeet.net/claudineq/) who became the first lifter to make Elite in the Virtualmeet rankings (http://virtualmeet.net/rankings/). Her numbers where impressive with a 115kg (253.5lbs) squat, a 70kg (154.3lbs) bench press and a 145kg (319.7lbs) deadlift at a bodyweight of 60.4kg (133.2lbs). Fellow Swiss Ramon Gysin (http://virtualmeet.net/adrnline/) unfortunately tore his hamstring on his second squat attempt and had to bow out of the deadlift... but that very same 205kg (451.9lbs) squat also landed him first on the squat rankings. Lindy Rossow (http://virtualmeet.net/lindy/) of the USA also made an impressive debut clocking in at second place on the women's totals.

So with its ups and downs, this is a meet to remember. I only touched the surface in regard to the Gathering; more thorough coverage to follow within the next few days... I also suspect that the other guys will have a few words to say about it.

Thanks to Mike Amos (http://virtualmeet.net/anvil/), Ryan Rigdon (http://virtualmeet.net/rigdon/) and Ron Villani (http://virtualmeet.net/ironman50/) for once again saving the day by judging the meet. Thanks!!

[ INSERT FURTHER DISCUSSION BELOW  ;D ]


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: tearsnrain on July 28, 2009, 06:01:35 pm
Congratulations to all who competed.  I hope that Ramon has a speedy and complete recovery.  Congrats to Claudia on Elite.  There may be something to the bodybuilding style of training, because Mans lifts were almost effortless. I can't help but feel excited and inspired and psyched up watching the videos: Lindy, good hanging in there for that last deadlift.  Kris, I think that all the competitors deserve a complementary bag of Salmiakki or Turkish Peber for participating ::)  And Christian, sorry yet again for misloading your second bench, and for showing me how the IPF do.

Kris, good comeback and thanks for everything.   Now that you're finished with this, I can start posting.  It'll be on zenprimer.blogspot.com.  After watching all that he does coding wise and work wise (Even while we were camping) for this site, I say we truly get the easy part of Virtualmeet. 


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: burgerc on July 29, 2009, 09:57:07 am
Thanks to Kris for putting up a great meet yet again.
Congrats to all competitors. I second what Alberto wrote. Especially concerning how effortless Mans lifts looked with perfect technique throughout. The >200 kg squat from Ramon was great. THe injury not so much. I hope you heal up quickly.
Claudia, nice lifting again. Cross Fit Basel seems a great place for training.

Alberto's 3rd squat attempt was remarkable after finding out that his previous lifts would not count.
Lindy: Nice job on the VM debut!

I will pass on the Salmiaki. I bought a bag of "SuperSalmiaki" at the airport in Helsinki and there are plenty left.  ;)
After the meet is before the meet. I still need to work to get the squats consistently deeper and train the pause on the bench. Hopefully with the 120kg I have bottomed out of my bench press "recession" :-)


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: Lindy on July 30, 2009, 05:07:41 am
Thanks everyone!  Alberto- I laughed out loud when I first watched myself on that last deadlift - it was sooooo slow and shaky :)   

Big thanks to the meet organizers and judges!!  This site is great.  Thank you so much for putting time and effort into this.  Training for and doing the meet was a lot of fun.     

Claudia, you're an inspiration.  Your numbers are amazing.  Great job!  I haven't had time to watch everyone else's lifts yet but I'm looking forward to watching them soon! 

Thanks again.       


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on July 30, 2009, 08:28:48 pm
Alberto: perhaps we not only need to start packaging the official Virtualmeet meet morning breakfast (protein powder mixed into natural yoghurt with a healthy full grain sugar-free müsli), but also Virtualmeet salmiakki... "Ammonium chloride gets cars... and lifters running".  ;D And thanks for blogging the whole experience; like I wrote in a comment on your blog (http://zenprimer.blogspot.com/), it is intriguing to see the whole experience through the eyes of someone from a completely different part of the world. Good stuff!

Other than that, I keep nodding in agreement over what has been posted here regarding Måns's technique, Claudia's power, Lindy's deadlift etc.


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on August 04, 2009, 09:34:01 pm
I only touched the surface in regard to the Gathering; more thorough coverage to follow within the next few days...

I will postpone the Gathering update until some time next week. The kids have been down in a fever for five days straight now and doing this work over a broadband connection will be all that much smoother too (still on the island on a mobile connection). So stay tuned and sorry for the delay. Lots of good stuff to follow.


Title: Re: DISCUSSION: Powerlifting - the Gathering meet, 10-12 July 2009
Post by: kris on November 11, 2009, 12:07:41 am
The long-overdue Gathering coverage is now on... Facebook! (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Virtualmeet/185314734104?v=photos)