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This thread is for any discussion related to the Military Bench or the Bench Press meets only.

To sign up for either of these meets please follow the links below:
BENCH PRESS (http://virtualmeet.net/community/forum/meet-talk/184/0/)
MILITARY BENCH  (http://virtualmeet.net/community/forum/meet-talk/183/0/)

MEET WEEKEND!

Timothy McIlhinney (http://virtualmeet.net/vanhalen/) and yours truly (http://virtualmeet.net/kris/) will be judging this one. We are still missing one judge, but we will have one by the time the judging will begin. So no worries, the meets are on!

Good luck everyone! :D

The meet was OK. Although my camera malfunctioned right after warm up. So I shot the video with my mobile. I hope the judges still can make out some details.
I hope I got my opener since I bombed on the other 2 attempts.

Good news! We got an experienced bencher as our third judge as Walter Kurda (http://virtualmeet.net/unequipped/) agreed to take part. As of right now, three lifters have uploaded their video. As soon as we got it all, I will release both meets for judging. This should happen sometime early next week after which the judges will have one week to complete their judging.

Thanks everyone!

The military bench meet has been passed to the judges. As usual, you can follow the judging progess in the box on top of this forum.

The bench press meet will unfortunately be somewhat delayed due to the large number of clips coming in from the Stone County Powerlifting Team. They have been granted an extended upload time until the end of this upcoming weekend. The bench meet is thus expected to be released to the judges by early next week, but the military bench press results will be released as soon as it has been judged.

Stay tuned!  :)

Update: the military bench meet has been 67% judged for some time now, as soon as the last judge has judged it we will release the results.

The Stone County Powerlifting Team now has most of its video uploaded for the bench meet, but the lifter info files are still pending. This turned into a long upload affair this time around due to the sheer amount of lifters and them being very busy with wrapping up the school year. The judging of the bench meet will begin as soon as the military bench meet has been finished.

That's it for now.  :)

All the meet data has now been uploaded. Some data mangling needs to be done to pull in all of the Stone County powerlifters, but basically the bench meet is now ready to be judged as soon as the military bench meet has been wrapped up. The bench meet should be with the judges sometime this weekend. We will aim to have the meet release before June 8th when I will head for a vacation in Greece.

The list of participants for both the bench press (http://virtualmeet.net/community/forum/meet-talk/184/msg1162/#msg1162) and military bench (http://virtualmeet.net/community/forum/meet-talk/183/msg1161/#msg1161) meets have been updated. As is usually the case, a few lifters needed to pull out.

The military bench press meet has now been judged and released (http://virtualmeet.net/meets/200805mb/).

More detail to follow tomorrow. :D

Unfortunately, it is my sad duty to report that the results for the bench press meet will be delayed further. As it took two weeks to finish the judging for the military bench meet and a large portion of the uploaded data for the bench press meet needs some manually fixing, I could not find the time to wrap this up before my vacation in Greece. I will be back on June 15th after which I will do my utmost to get the meet passed on to the judges swiftly (me being one of them).

Unless there is another judging delay, the meet results should be out around June 25th give or take. My humblest apologies to all the lifters and judges for the delay.

Thanks to the judges and the participants.

This military style pressing is pretty cool as it is good for working on starting strength off the chest.

I second that. Christian, you keep on improving your lifts nicely for every meet, good job!

What is a real pity is that Walter Kurda did not make the registration deadline for this one, but he posted a very impressive video of his lifts on YouTube. 182.5kg/402lbs looks like a warm-up.  :o

: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppozsApdk5w

Walter, hopefully you will be able to smash our rankings with your lifts in the near future.

Also, after a nice week on Crete with my family, it is my pleasure to finally be able to announce that the bench press meet has been submitted to the judges. Ideally, the judges will finish it within a week, but I have not yet heard back from Tim and Walter on this. Since this meet slipped into the vacation season it is possible that there will be delays if either man is on holiday.

Tomorrow I will open the meet registration for the July 25-27th powerlifting meet. Stay tuned.  :)

Two out of three judges have now finished the judging. We're getting there. :)

...and we are done! The meet will now be prepared for release. Stay tuned!

...AND THE MEET HAS BEEN RELEASED! (http://virtualmeet.net/meets/200805bp/) The rankings (http://virtualmeet.net/rankings/) have also been updated to include all meets.

This meet saw some very nice lifting with 16-year-old Ramsey Sellers (USA) (http://virtualmeet.net/ramseysellers) taking the meet and securing 4th on the bench press rankings with his light-as-air 154.2kg/340lbs press at 132.9kg/293lbs. It was also a pleasure to see so many students line up behind Coach Kevin Boone (http://virtualmeet.net/coachboone/) for the second appearance of the Stone County Powerlifting Teams.

At the same time, the judges did not have an easy time as we had to turn down several impressive lifts due to lifters wearing clothing that was clearly against the rules, specifically long pants. At the end of the day, if we want to enforce shorts as the proper lifting attire we simply cannot accept anything else. One lifter, Clayton Sharp (http://virtualmeet.net/claytonsharp/), also suffered the fate of having his video clips mixed up with another lifter's with the unfortunate result that the judges did not have any video of his attempts to judge. To these lifters I can only wish better luck next time. :)

A major change beginning with these two meets is the lack of an edited meet video. As fun as putting them together is, the high workload required to constantly make high-quality videos started to make itself felt as the number of meets have been drastically increased. We are aiming at getting the meet release cycle down to one week and the video editing does not help in this regard as it cannot be sensibly automated. You will probably see some edited videos in the future, but we will no longer produce them for each meet as a matter of course.

That's it for now. As usual, any and all thoughts by lifters and judges are welcome here.  :)

I got bad attire for my two lifts from all three judges  ::) and thats almost exactly what I wore for the full meet and there wasnt a problem ::) whats the deal?

The current rules (http://virtualmeet.net/meets/rules/) are very clear on long pants not being allowed:


BUT, as you say, you also wore long pants in the March 2008 powerlifting meet (http://virtualmeet.net/meets/200803pl/) on the bench press (but not on the deadlift where you are wearing shorts). In addition, you wore the same set of long pants in the military bench meet (http://virtualmeet.net/meets/200805mb/). The military bench meet is doubly embarrassing for us since  Michael Amos (http://virtualmeet.net/anvil/) got flagged for bad attire in the same meet wearing long sleeves instead of a T-shirt. Obviously, the deal is that the judges (including me on the military bench press) somehow failed to notice that your lifting attire was against the rules.

Obviously, if you were to have been flagged down properly the first time this happened, you would probably not have worn long pants for this meet and would have gotten at least your opener through. My sincerest apologies. The judges clearly need to pay more attention and to make sure that they have the rules clearly in mind when doing their thing in the future. The rules are still in draft since we are in the process of adding the weightlifting rules to the current draft, so if anyone wants to raise the topic of changing any aspects of it we would be interested in hearing your arguments rules draft thread (http://virtualmeet.net/community/forum/technical-questions/45/0/). One of my main aims behind this site is to simulate a real meet to the extent possible so that those interested in real world competitions get some experience with that process. In this respect, shorts are the norm and to me embody one of the clearest symbols of RAW lifting. Our rules in general are by and large based on those of existing federations, primarily the IPF, with some modifications to cater for the peculiarities of virtual competition. That said, the bottom line is that we need to agree on the rules and then do our utmost to stick to them in order to run this professionally. As your case shows, we may not have been quite successful with this so far.

The current rules do not have any provisions for changing the calls of lifts in retrospect unless there is evidence that the lifter has cheated in some manner. Adding such a rule may also prove counterproductive in the long run. Therefore, the only solution I see is to let those lifts that passed with you wearing long pants stand. After all, we don't go back and change calls on squat depth or the bench pause after the fact either. As in sports in general, judging mistakes will happen from time to time and that's part of the game... but with three judges, we should expect that something this obvious get flagged.

Many thanks Tom for bringing this up, we needed to know about this. The project is still young, and we have work ahead of us on all fronts, this being one.

To be a bit more precise, short legged singlets is the norm in most federations with some form of shorts being allowed in many junior divisions and many RAW organizations. We used to allow singlets too, but they were dropped last year (http://virtualmeet.net/community/forum/technical-questions/45/msg267/) (see the link for the motivations behind this).